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		<title>By: Money Links – Health Care Rage Edition &#124; HighYields.com</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/08/18/weakonomics-take-on-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-2865</link>
		<dc:creator>Money Links – Health Care Rage Edition &#124; HighYields.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: calshana</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/08/18/weakonomics-take-on-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-2853</link>
		<dc:creator>calshana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing in any of the House bills which offers coverage to illegal immigrants. In fact, it&#039;s specifically prohibited in both of the House bills.

The Senate bill is expected to have the public health plan removed in favor of the more palatable health exchanges that currently exist in several states. It is also expected to have a tax on health plans that are valued at more than $25k per year and extend COBRA indefinitely. 

I think that once the Senate bill actually comes out, there might be something to debate at that point. For now, the Town Halls are doing nothing but adding more chaos to the mix and arguing over a non-existent bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing in any of the House bills which offers coverage to illegal immigrants. In fact, it&#8217;s specifically prohibited in both of the House bills.</p>
<p>The Senate bill is expected to have the public health plan removed in favor of the more palatable health exchanges that currently exist in several states. It is also expected to have a tax on health plans that are valued at more than $25k per year and extend COBRA indefinitely. </p>
<p>I think that once the Senate bill actually comes out, there might be something to debate at that point. For now, the Town Halls are doing nothing but adding more chaos to the mix and arguing over a non-existent bill.</p>
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		<title>By: henryyoung</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/08/18/weakonomics-take-on-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-2840</link>
		<dc:creator>henryyoung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t just those why pay taxes get health benefits...how b&#039;out that Obama and the rest of the health care reform starters??? NO seriously, this I could be in favor of, but not just letting any old person that comes to America, even the illegal’s to get health care and our taxes go up the roof???? No, sure, I will cont. to fight this...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t just those why pay taxes get health benefits&#8230;how b&#8217;out that Obama and the rest of the health care reform starters??? NO seriously, this I could be in favor of, but not just letting any old person that comes to America, even the illegal’s to get health care and our taxes go up the roof???? No, sure, I will cont. to fight this&#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/08/18/weakonomics-take-on-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-2838</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A two tiered system is what makes sense.  In reality it is what we have now with Medicare.  Government single payer with private insurers providing gap coverage.  It is also what we do with property and casualty insurance in Terrorism.  It is called TRIA.

As what are essentially oligopolies or quasi monopolies, the insurance industry should be regulated a lot heavier.  I am a big believer of government setting the rules of the game, including sometimes maximum profit, and letting industry figure out how they are going to fit in those rules.  I do not believe in Laissez fair policies as they only work in truly competative markets, which insurance is not.

I like the idea of a public option insurance plan as it sets a price range that just won&#039;t happen in the current market system.  While you are right people are happy with their private insurance, most people don&#039;t necessarily understand it.  Most don&#039;t understand life time maximums.  Most don&#039;t understand covered and uncovered treatment.  Most don&#039;t understand specific sublimits.  If you have your insurance through even a midsized company, your benefit manager theoretically knows the questions and clauses you need to worry about.

While the insurance industry and their supporters worry about loss of profit, no one has talked about the positive affect affordable and comprehensive health care would have on the economy.  How many people have stopped themselves from starting a business because they were worried about health care for their family?  I know my father was one of those.  Insurance outside of your company plan decouples the worker from the business which has ramifications both good and bad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A two tiered system is what makes sense.  In reality it is what we have now with Medicare.  Government single payer with private insurers providing gap coverage.  It is also what we do with property and casualty insurance in Terrorism.  It is called TRIA.</p>
<p>As what are essentially oligopolies or quasi monopolies, the insurance industry should be regulated a lot heavier.  I am a big believer of government setting the rules of the game, including sometimes maximum profit, and letting industry figure out how they are going to fit in those rules.  I do not believe in Laissez fair policies as they only work in truly competative markets, which insurance is not.</p>
<p>I like the idea of a public option insurance plan as it sets a price range that just won&#8217;t happen in the current market system.  While you are right people are happy with their private insurance, most people don&#8217;t necessarily understand it.  Most don&#8217;t understand life time maximums.  Most don&#8217;t understand covered and uncovered treatment.  Most don&#8217;t understand specific sublimits.  If you have your insurance through even a midsized company, your benefit manager theoretically knows the questions and clauses you need to worry about.</p>
<p>While the insurance industry and their supporters worry about loss of profit, no one has talked about the positive affect affordable and comprehensive health care would have on the economy.  How many people have stopped themselves from starting a business because they were worried about health care for their family?  I know my father was one of those.  Insurance outside of your company plan decouples the worker from the business which has ramifications both good and bad.<br />
.-= Chris&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://followmybusiness.blogspot.com/2009/08/stages-of-entrepeurship.html" rel="nofollow">Stages of Entrepeurship</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/08/18/weakonomics-take-on-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a tough argument depending on what side you are on and there is no easy way for it to be accomplished.  The administration keeps changing its mind and won&#039;t take a clear stance and those who are good with insurance now really have no benefit if things are changed the way announced.  The competition won&#039;t necessarily lower the costs, look at the postal service.  Gov&#039;t will always be slower and inefficient to innovation and the private will always be a higher premium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a tough argument depending on what side you are on and there is no easy way for it to be accomplished.  The administration keeps changing its mind and won&#8217;t take a clear stance and those who are good with insurance now really have no benefit if things are changed the way announced.  The competition won&#8217;t necessarily lower the costs, look at the postal service.  Gov&#8217;t will always be slower and inefficient to innovation and the private will always be a higher premium.</p>
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		<title>By: LifeExcursion</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/08/18/weakonomics-take-on-the-health-care-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-2833</link>
		<dc:creator>LifeExcursion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this link out for a different side of the debate

http://bit.ly/NDPuE

Dave
LifeExcursion
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this link out for a different side of the debate</p>
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<p>Dave<br />
LifeExcursion<br />
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