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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/02/06/the-biggest-polluter-on-the-planet-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-1565</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not qualified to discuss economics if you think children are only a cost and don&#039;t produce anything.  And you&#039;re especially unqualified if you don&#039;t know large families with fathers (usually conservative Catholic/Protestant) produce the highest percentage of law-abiding, creative (even creating energy solutions!), productive citizens than any other demographic.  And did you know that family solidarity is *very* highly correlated with religious and market freedoms?  Do your research, man -- you do NOT understand the social sciences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not qualified to discuss economics if you think children are only a cost and don&#8217;t produce anything.  And you&#8217;re especially unqualified if you don&#8217;t know large families with fathers (usually conservative Catholic/Protestant) produce the highest percentage of law-abiding, creative (even creating energy solutions!), productive citizens than any other demographic.  And did you know that family solidarity is *very* highly correlated with religious and market freedoms?  Do your research, man &#8212; you do NOT understand the social sciences.</p>
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		<title>By: lolcopter</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/02/06/the-biggest-polluter-on-the-planet-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-1563</link>
		<dc:creator>lolcopter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/bruno_waterfield/blog/2009/02/01/eu_and_green_envy_at_chinastyle_restrictions_on_family_size

(editor&#039;s note: link to &quot;EU and Green envy at China-style restrictions on family size&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/bruno_waterfield/blog/2009/02/01/eu_and_green_envy_at_chinastyle_restrictions_on_family_size" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/bruno_waterfield/blog/2009/02/01/eu_and_green_envy_at_chinastyle_restrictions_on_family_size</a></p>
<p>(editor&#8217;s note: link to &#8220;EU and Green envy at China-style restrictions on family size&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: lolcopter</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/02/06/the-biggest-polluter-on-the-planet-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator>lolcopter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it&#039;s because the Church believes it is intrinsically wrong to use contraceptives to prevent human life from coming into existence, but close. They also believe widespread use of contraceptives could result in a lowering of moral standards, objectification of women and other trivial stuff.*

I am also not into religious politics, but if we&#039;re going to be making people look weird and outcasting them from our society, we should at least recognize where they&#039;re coming from. In hindsight, the Benedict quote could be seen as out of place, but energy consumption and rising out of poverty go hand-in-hand. If you want to decrease energy consumption, thereby decreasing pollution, the global recession will do wonders.

I can agree that pollution is a topic worthy of discussion, and recognize how energy production, pollution and population come into play. I&#039;m not advocating unfettered child-bearing, and I can respect the fact that we all have to live within our own means as far as energy consumption [and everything else] is concerned, but I believe our efforts would be best concentrated on how we use and create our energy as opposed to how many children our neighbors should have. 

Besides, economically speaking, we&#039;re going to need a lot of offspring to cancel out the inflation from the trillion dollars worth of stimulus. LOL.



*http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae_en.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it&#8217;s because the Church believes it is intrinsically wrong to use contraceptives to prevent human life from coming into existence, but close. They also believe widespread use of contraceptives could result in a lowering of moral standards, objectification of women and other trivial stuff.*</p>
<p>I am also not into religious politics, but if we&#8217;re going to be making people look weird and outcasting them from our society, we should at least recognize where they&#8217;re coming from. In hindsight, the Benedict quote could be seen as out of place, but energy consumption and rising out of poverty go hand-in-hand. If you want to decrease energy consumption, thereby decreasing pollution, the global recession will do wonders.</p>
<p>I can agree that pollution is a topic worthy of discussion, and recognize how energy production, pollution and population come into play. I&#8217;m not advocating unfettered child-bearing, and I can respect the fact that we all have to live within our own means as far as energy consumption [and everything else] is concerned, but I believe our efforts would be best concentrated on how we use and create our energy as opposed to how many children our neighbors should have. </p>
<p>Besides, economically speaking, we&#8217;re going to need a lot of offspring to cancel out the inflation from the trillion dollars worth of stimulus. LOL.</p>
<p>*http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae_en.html</p>
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		<title>By: Trey - Swollen Thumb Entertainment</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/02/06/the-biggest-polluter-on-the-planet-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-1543</link>
		<dc:creator>Trey - Swollen Thumb Entertainment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of a sudden, I am having flashbacks of Agent Smith from The Matrix, describing the human race as a virus.  The message here seems pretty similar.

And the reason that the Catholic Church discourages birth control is so that more Catholics will be born that will donate more money to the church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of a sudden, I am having flashbacks of Agent Smith from The Matrix, describing the human race as a virus.  The message here seems pretty similar.</p>
<p>And the reason that the Catholic Church discourages birth control is so that more Catholics will be born that will donate more money to the church.</p>
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		<title>By: the weakonomist</title>
		<link>http://weakonomics.com/2009/02/06/the-biggest-polluter-on-the-planet-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>the weakonomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 05:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you not familiar with Malthus, our well informed commenter above is referring to Thomas Malthus, a british economist from the days of Washington and Franklin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus.

I don&#039;t think a comment about pedophile priests will nullify the potential validity of Benedict&#039;s point.  I&#039;m not into religious politics, but I&#039;m sure someone here might have a worthy reply.  It&#039;s a discussion I&#039;m interested in following.  I will add that the point of my discussion is not one of poverty, but of pollution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you not familiar with Malthus, our well informed commenter above is referring to Thomas Malthus, a british economist from the days of Washington and Franklin <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think a comment about pedophile priests will nullify the potential validity of Benedict&#8217;s point.  I&#8217;m not into religious politics, but I&#8217;m sure someone here might have a worthy reply.  It&#8217;s a discussion I&#8217;m interested in following.  I will add that the point of my discussion is not one of poverty, but of pollution.</p>
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		<title>By: lolcopter</title>
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		<dc:creator>lolcopter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Malthusian undertone to much of this article is unwarranted. Energy from fossil fuels is finite, but given advancements in technology and science, energy production itself has nearly infinite possibilities.

I would stress an individual approach to energy consumption. Over-population in places like Africa is a concern, to be sure, but we ought to be more concerned with how energy is used by people who are currently alive. An individual who uses more than their fair share of energy ought to be &quot;made weird&quot; long before a large family (eg: Algore flying around the world burning fossil fuels, all while preaching his green gospel from the pulpit).

Here&#039;s a little food for thought from the Pope:
&quot;Poverty is often considered a consequence of demographic change. For this reason, there are international campaigns afoot to reduce birth-rates, sometimes using methods that respect neither the dignity of the woman, nor the right of parents to choose responsibly how many children to have; graver still, these methods often fail to respect even the right to life. The extermination of millions of unborn children, in the name of the fight against poverty, actually constitutes the destruction of the poorest of all human beings. And yet it remains the case that in 1981, around 40% of the world&#039;s population was below the threshold of absolute poverty, while today that percentage has been reduced by as much as a half, and whole peoples have escaped from poverty despite experiencing substantial demographic growth. This goes to show that resources to solve the problem of poverty do exist, even in the face of an increasing population. Nor must it be forgotten that, since the end of the Second World War, the world&#039;s population has grown by four billion, largely because of certain countries that have recently emerged on the international scene as new economic powers, and have experienced rapid development specifically because of the large number of their inhabitants. Moreover, among the most developed nations, those with higher birth-rates enjoy better opportunities for development. In other words, population is proving to be an asset, not a factor that contributes to poverty.&quot;

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20081208_xlii-world-day-peace_en.html

Sadly, most people will completely disregard this message because &quot;priests rape children&quot; or some other witty retort, but the entire article is worth reading.

P.S. Friedman is a tool. He used to trumpet globalization as the best thing since sliced bread. Now that &quot;green&quot; is the new in vogue mantra, he has hopped on that bandwagon as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Malthusian undertone to much of this article is unwarranted. Energy from fossil fuels is finite, but given advancements in technology and science, energy production itself has nearly infinite possibilities.</p>
<p>I would stress an individual approach to energy consumption. Over-population in places like Africa is a concern, to be sure, but we ought to be more concerned with how energy is used by people who are currently alive. An individual who uses more than their fair share of energy ought to be &#8220;made weird&#8221; long before a large family (eg: Algore flying around the world burning fossil fuels, all while preaching his green gospel from the pulpit).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a little food for thought from the Pope:<br />
&#8220;Poverty is often considered a consequence of demographic change. For this reason, there are international campaigns afoot to reduce birth-rates, sometimes using methods that respect neither the dignity of the woman, nor the right of parents to choose responsibly how many children to have; graver still, these methods often fail to respect even the right to life. The extermination of millions of unborn children, in the name of the fight against poverty, actually constitutes the destruction of the poorest of all human beings. And yet it remains the case that in 1981, around 40% of the world&#8217;s population was below the threshold of absolute poverty, while today that percentage has been reduced by as much as a half, and whole peoples have escaped from poverty despite experiencing substantial demographic growth. This goes to show that resources to solve the problem of poverty do exist, even in the face of an increasing population. Nor must it be forgotten that, since the end of the Second World War, the world&#8217;s population has grown by four billion, largely because of certain countries that have recently emerged on the international scene as new economic powers, and have experienced rapid development specifically because of the large number of their inhabitants. Moreover, among the most developed nations, those with higher birth-rates enjoy better opportunities for development. In other words, population is proving to be an asset, not a factor that contributes to poverty.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20081208_xlii-world-day-peace_en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20081208_xlii-world-day-peace_en.html</a></p>
<p>Sadly, most people will completely disregard this message because &#8220;priests rape children&#8221; or some other witty retort, but the entire article is worth reading.</p>
<p>P.S. Friedman is a tool. He used to trumpet globalization as the best thing since sliced bread. Now that &#8220;green&#8221; is the new in vogue mantra, he has hopped on that bandwagon as well.</p>
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		<title>By: the weakonomist</title>
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		<dc:creator>the weakonomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@emily
I hadn&#039;t given it that much thought but pop-culture has played a big part in the baby-making of the united states.  I think we are capable of doing our part here.  My other concern is how we&#039;ll get the likes of Africa and Asia to join in on this plan.  This will be a global problem, and every day America&#039;s influence on the world is reduced.
@playbook
I thought that poster would be very effective at keeping the baby-makin down.  I let out an audible chuckle when I saw it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@emily<br />
I hadn&#8217;t given it that much thought but pop-culture has played a big part in the baby-making of the united states.  I think we are capable of doing our part here.  My other concern is how we&#8217;ll get the likes of Africa and Asia to join in on this plan.  This will be a global problem, and every day America&#8217;s influence on the world is reduced.<br />
@playbook<br />
I thought that poster would be very effective at keeping the baby-makin down.  I let out an audible chuckle when I saw it.</p>
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		<title>By: emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always thought a big part in the effectiveness of ANY don’t-make-pregnancy-an-accident campaign would have to have huge buy-in/support from the entertainment industry. Movies and tv shows glorify the non-virgin and make it completely ok to be a teenage mom (Juno, Secret Life of the American Teenager), and as long as record labels make tons of money off young Miley Cyrus skanks, little girls will continue to hike up their skirts a bit more and sex will just be another way to rebel against parents and an avenue to be cool. I too think condoms and birth control campaigns should run rampant, but unfortunately the bombardment of mixed messages will defer its effectiveness. Technically, the Christian good-girl singer BEFORE her makeover and hit single “I Kissed a Girl” Katy Perry would have to have won the grammy… don’t see that happening anytime soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought a big part in the effectiveness of ANY don’t-make-pregnancy-an-accident campaign would have to have huge buy-in/support from the entertainment industry. Movies and tv shows glorify the non-virgin and make it completely ok to be a teenage mom (Juno, Secret Life of the American Teenager), and as long as record labels make tons of money off young Miley Cyrus skanks, little girls will continue to hike up their skirts a bit more and sex will just be another way to rebel against parents and an avenue to be cool. I too think condoms and birth control campaigns should run rampant, but unfortunately the bombardment of mixed messages will defer its effectiveness. Technically, the Christian good-girl singer BEFORE her makeover and hit single “I Kissed a Girl” Katy Perry would have to have won the grammy… don’t see that happening anytime soon!</p>
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		<title>By: The Personal Finance Playbook</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Personal Finance Playbook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really have an idea of how to control population growth while still maintaining a free society - but I do really like that birth control poster.  Funny stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really have an idea of how to control population growth while still maintaining a free society &#8211; but I do really like that birth control poster.  Funny stuff.</p>
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